August 25, 1985

ENSHRINING THE FUHRER

HITLER - MEMOIRS OF A CONFIDANT Edited by Henry Ashby Turner Jr. Translated by Ruth Hein. Illustrated. 333 pp. New Haven: Yale University Press. $29.95.

IN the funeral chapter of ''Ulysses,'' one of Joyce's characters tells the story of two drunks who are looking for the final resting place of a friend of theirs, Terence Mulcahy from the Coombe. They finally find it, and as one of them spells out the name, the other squints blearily up at the statue of the Saviour that their friend's widow has had erected over the grave. ''Not a bloody bit like the man,'' he says. ''That's not Mulcahy, whoever done it.''

This story comes powerfully to mind as one reads this record of conversations between Adolf Hitler and Otto Wagener in the years from 1929 to 1933, for the Fuhrer who emerges from ''Hitler - Memoirs of a Confidant'' is not the one whom we know from his own writings, accounts by other associates and his lurid career of crimes against peace and civilization. What is one to make of this new Hitler, who talks mawkishly and interminably about Christian virtues and defines his goal as the ''fulfillment of the sublime Christian idea of a socialist sense of community''? Far from wishing to exterminate the Jews, this Hitler insists, ''Like Christ, we must preach, 'You are all brothers! Love one another!' . . . We must not call one blood worse than another.''

He is so opposed to conflict that he is reluctant to arm his storm troops (SA) against their domestic opponents and agrees with Wagener that the time for large-scale international conflict is definitely past. This Hitler ''lived in an intellectual universe that differed from what we are accustomed to, [so] his conclusions, his utterances - yes, even his instructions . . . - could, in the hands of those who had to execute them, lead to consequences he neither intended nor foresaw.'' Faced with this image of Hitler, as an ''unwitting prisoner'' of Goring, Goebbels and Himmler, powerless to prevent his true intentions from being distorted by evil associates for their own criminal purposes, we have every reason to say, ''Not a bloody bit like the man.''

It would be unwise, however, to reject these memoirs out of hand simply because their author was so convinced the Fuhrer was ''a phenomenon that had . . . somehow [been] set by providence in the human world'' that he resolved to fashion a literary shrine to his memory. For this book, now translated by Ruth Hein, is not only or always bent on palliating Hitler's crimes, and when it is not, it is informative and often fascinating. Historians are not oversupplied with source materials on the years immediately before Hitler's accession to power in 1933, and despite its weaknesses, this record tells us a good deal we did not know about currents of thought, unresolved issues and conflicts of personality within the Nazi party during these critical years.

Nor is there any doubt about the competence of its author to speak about these things. Otto Wagener was a veteran of World War I, in which he served in the General Staff. After 1918, as a member of a volunteer Free Corps, he fought against the Bolsheviks in the Baltic lands and the Poles in Upper Silesia, and in 1920 he was involved in the unsuccessful Kapp putsch against the Weimar Republic and served a short term in prison. Throughout the 20's he continued to be active in rightist politics but also studied economics and became a successful businessman and a member of various trade associations, with a wide acquaintance in political, military and even academic circles. In the summer of 1929, he received an invitation to attend the National Socialist party congress in Nuremberg and was subsequently asked by Hitler to become chief of staff of the SA. From then until the beginning of 1933, he was a member of the Fuhrer's inner circle. Contact with Hitler was broken off abruptly in June 1933, and Wagener retired to pri-vate life until 1939, when he returned to the army as a captain. He had risen to the rank major general by the time he surrendered to the British on Rhodes in 1945, and he wrote his book in captivity. During 1931 and 1932, as SA chief of staff and head of the Nazi party's Economic Policy Section, Wagener was together with Hitler hundreds of times, for they both had offices in the party's headquarters, the Brown House in Munich, and Wagener accompanied Hitler on his frequent trips by car to various parts of Germany. The conversations he records cannot be taken as verbatim, since they were written down 14 years later. But they have value because they tell us what was on Hitler's mind in those years and what issues the party leaders were debating. T HEY make clear, for example, that, while Hitler never doubted he was going to achieve his goal of becoming Chancellor of Germany, he was not yet sure what he would do then. This was certainly true for economic policy, about which party debate became increasingly intense in 1931 and 1932, with Wagener trying to persuade Hitler to abandon economic liberalism and follow a socialist-corporatist line. It was also true of military policy, with Ernst Roehm, Wagener's successor as SA chief, arguing that he should be permitted to take over the Reichswehr and turn it into a revolutionary army. Both Wagener and Roehm lost their battles, but that outcome was not clear at the time of these conversations, and Wagener's mem-oir is doubly interesting because it reveals Hitler's noncommittal attitude; we get the sense that he is constantly weighing issues, not on their own merits but from a cold, pragmatic political point of view.

Of equal interest are the long conversations on for-eign policy, which show how firmly Hitler believed at that time in the necessity of gaining an alliance with Great Britain, even at the cost of forswearing colonies, and how muddled his views were about the United States. Notable also are the sometimes disjointed discussions about education and the tasks of German youth, about modern painting, about art and propaganda, as well as about party politics in the Weimar Republic. Finally, scattered through these pages is a fair amount of new information about Hitler's relations with women, particularly his niece Geli Raubal and Joseph Goebbels' wife, Magda, his views on homosexuality, his use of drugs and stimulants, his extensive reading and the bizarre social behavior of some of his associates.

All in all, then, there is little doubt that these memoirs are a rich treasury of information about Hitler and his party. But, as Henry Ashby Turner Jr., the Yale historian who is the editor of this volume, says in his penetrating introductory assessment of their historical importance, they should be read with a wary regard for the circumstances in which they were written and the biases of their author.

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December 24, 1996
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

All day yesterday, I thought about what I might put beneath your Christmas tree, and this morning I decided that it had to be a little bit more sanity, truth, clarity and vision.

So here it is, from conversations recorded by Otto Wagener in "Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant" - and, all the more remarkable! - published by Yale University Press in 1985:

Here are the Fuehrer's words, prior to World War II:

"Much as I gaze in awe at the Jews' laws for maintaining and preserving the purity of their race, I must nevertheless proceed from my belief that racial theories, should they become the subject of public discussion, may prove a national disaster rather than a blessing.

We must accept the mixing of blood as it is. We must not call one blood worse than another, one mixture better than another. Rather, we must employ other means to breed a higher form from this gray mass. We must try to bring to the surface the valuable traits of the people. . . to cultivate and to develop them, and we must find ways and means to prevent the propagation of all the bad, inferior, criminal and decadent tendencies and all the congenital diseases so damaging to the Volk.

Furthermore, we must educate the young people in the beauty of movement, the beauty of the body, and the beauty of the spirit. Athletics, personal grooming, physical training, public performances of competitive games and contests, and a revival of the performing arts along the old Greek models will contribute to making a girl see how the man who is worthy of her should look and appear, as well as letting a boy know what his ideal woman is like. Then he will voluntarily turn away from the games coquettish puppets play, from dyed hair, painted faces, roughed lips and red fingernails.

And such selective breeding will become all the more matter of course the more we bring the . . . Volk together and weld it into one. In their earliest childhood, in kindergarten, in elementary school, in the Hitler Youth and the League of German girls, all classes must meet. No distinction should be allowed to be made between the rich and the poor, between high and low, between city and country, between employer and employee; rather, there is only the distinction between respectable and disrespectable, between companionable and uncompanionable, between aboveboard and furtive, between truth and lies, between courage and cowardice, and between health and sickness.

Then, when these children grow up, they will use their feet to cast aside all this party rubbish, and in every district they will elect the man, the only one, who represents them and goes to the Reichstag on their behalf. Only then will we see true democracy! And it is ridiculous to think that among these elected candidates there would be even a single one who is not a genuine paragon . . . representative, in short, of (the) Volk that from generation to generation rises ever higher from the oozing slime in which Europe, in which the Old World is still wading.

Sometimes I have the feeling that it is not granted us to experience this great future, that only a coming generation will be mature enough to translate our ideas and plans into action. But it is our mission to bring about the basis for such a community of the Volk, and especially to guide the young people . . . along the paths that lead to this goal. It will not come about without a struggle! We must make no mistake about that. Not everything we tackle will be successful. There will be setbacks. . . Hammer blows will rain down upon us. But under them and through them the iron and bronze of which the . . . Volk is fashioned will be pounded and forged, and it will grow hard, hard as steel, steely! That is the way to make that magnificent sword with its bluish gleam that nevermore breaks and nevermore misses its mark . . . "
 

Have yourself a quiet and reflective Christmas Eve and a wholesome Christmas 1996!

Ingrid
 

Thought for the Day:

"It is of great consequence in what bodies souls are placed, for many things spring from the body that sharpen the mind, and many that blunt and dull it."

(Cicero

 

 

 

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Rauschning's Phony 'Conversations With Hitler': An Update

Mark Weber

One of the most widely quoted sources of information about Hitler's personality and secret intentions is the supposed memoir of Hermann Rauschning, the National Socialist President of the Danzig Senate in 1933-1934 who was ousted from the Hitler movement a short time later and then made a new life for himself as a professional anti-Nazi.

In the book known in German as Conversations with Hitler (Gespraeche mit Hitler) and first published in the U.S. in 1940 as The Voice of Destruction, Rauschning presents page after page of what are purported to be Hitler's most intimate views and plans for the future, allegedly based on dozens of private conversations between 1932 and 1934. After the war the memoir was introduced as Allied prosecution exhibit USSR-378 at the main Nuremberg "war crimes" trial.

Among the damning quotations attributed to Hitler by Rauschning are these memorable statements:

We must be brutal. We must regain a clear conscience about brutality. Only then can we drive out the tenderness from our people ... Do I propose to exterminate entire nationalities? Yes, it will add up to that ... I naturally have the right to destroy millions of men of inferior races who increase like vermin ... Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians. It is an honorable title.

Hitler is also supposed to have confided to Rauschning, an almost unknown provincial official, fantastic plans for a German world empire that would include Africa, South America, Mexico and, eventually, the United States.

Many prestigious historians, inculding Leon Poliakov, Gerhard Weinberg, Alan Bullock, Joachim Fest, Nora Levin and Robert Payne, used choice quotations from Rauschning's memoir in their works of history. Poliakov, one of the most prominent Holocaust writers, specifically praised Rauschning for his "exceptional accuracy, while Levin, another widely-read Holocaust historian, called him "one of the most penetrating analysts of the Nazi period."

But not everyone has been so credulous. Swiss historian Wolfgang Haenel spent five years diligently investigating the memoir before announcing his findings in 1983 at a revisionist history conference in West Germany. The renowned Conversations with Hitler, he declared are a total fraud. The book has no value "except as a document of Allied war propaganda."

Haenel was able to conclusively establish that Rausching's claim to have met with Hitler "more than a hundred times is a lie. The two actually met only four times, and never alone. The words attributed to Hitler, he showed, were simply invented or lifted from many different sources, including writings by Juenger and Friedrich Nietzsche. An account of Hitler hearing voices, waking at night with convulsive shrieks and pointing in terror at an empty corner while shouting "There, there, in the corner!" was taken from a short story by French writer Guy de Maupassant.

The phony memoir was designed to incite public opinion in democratic countries, especially in the United States, in favor of war against Germany. The project was the brainchild of the Hungarian-born journalist Emery Reves, who ran an influential anti-German press and propaganda agency in Paris during the 1930s. Haenel has also found evidence that a prominent British journalist named Henry Wickham-Steele helped to produce the memoir. Wickham-Steele was a right-hand man of Sir Robert Vansittart, perhaps the most vehemently anti-German figure in Britain.

A report about Haenel's sensational findings appeared in the Fall 1983 issue of The Journal of Historical Review. More recently, West Germany's most influential weekly periodicals, Die Zeit, and Der Spiegel (7 September 1985), have run lengthy articles about historical hoax. Der Spiegel concluded that Rauschning's Conversations with Hitler "are a falsification, an historical distortion from the first to the last page ... Haenel not only proves the falsification, he also shows how the impressive surrogate was quickly compiled and which ingredients were mixed together."

There are some valuable lessons to be learned from the story of this sordid hoax, which took more than 40 years to finally unmask: It shows that even the most brazen historical fraud can have a tremendous impact if it serves important interests, that it's easier to invent a great historical lie than to expose one and finally, that everyone should be extremely wary of even the "authoritative" portrayals of the emotionally-charged Hitler era.

A footnote: Readers interested in an authentic record of Hitler's personality and private views should look into the fascinating and wide-ranging memoir of Otto Wagener, published in August 1985 by Yale University Press under the title Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant. Wagener was the first Chief of Staff of the SA ("stormtroopers") and Director of the Economic-Political Department of the National Socialist Party. He spent hundreds of hours with Hitler between 1929 and 1932, many of them alone.

 

Bibliographic information
Author:
Mark Weber
Title:
Rauschning's Phony 'Conversations With Hitler': An Update
Source:
The Journal for Historical Review (http://www.ihr.org)
Date:
Winter 1985-6
Issue:
Volume 6 number 4
Location:
p. 499
ISSN:
0195-6752
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"Reprinted from The Journal of Historical Review, PO Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 92659, USA. Domestic subscriptions $40 per year; foreign subscriptions $60 per year."
Please send a copy of all reprints to the Editor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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